Commercial implementations of radius (fwd)

Brian 'MegaZone' Bikowicz ((no email))
Sun, 31 Dec 1995 03:07:51 -0800 (PST)

Once upon a time Chris Howard shaped the electrons to say...
>Are there any supported versions of radius servers/tools
>available? being developed? Should I write one?

Supported RADIUS servers?

We (Livingston) supports our RADIUS server. Merit doesn't officially
provide support, but unofficially they do - William will probably be
reading this after the weekend unless he's crazy and works on the weekend.
(Everyone already knows I'm crazy). Ascend supports their's. I believe
USR supports theirs. I'd be shocked if Cisco didn't support theirs
when released.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'tools' though.

>Does Livingston and/or merit.edu have a legal lock
>on any of the radius technology? Do other hardware

Yes - copyright. And we both have developed extensions to the standard,
some of ours are designed to work with the PM and those are proprietary
extensions. The idea behind RADIUS is an open, extensible standard -
a lot like PPP.

>vendors support radius? Will they? How strong is

Livingston does, Ascend does, Cayman did, Cisco has announced support is
coming. Enigma logic supports their card on it, and SecurID has announced
support. And I know I'm forgetting someone.

>the 'standard'? Is it totally under the control
>of Livingston and/or merit.edu?

Nope, it is an IETF standards track. In other words, it is like PPP -
an open standard that any vendor is welcome to support to make life
easier for the end user. Livignston developed RADIUS, but instead of
keeping it proprietary, we made it an open standard and started the path
through the IETF to make it an official standard. It isn't yet, that
takes time, but the draft specification is growing in acceptance and
more vendors.

>Can pieces of the Livingston and/or merit.edu code be used
>in a commercial product?

No, read the copyright in the code. Anyone is welcome to modify or
mutilate our code - but the end result may not be used in a commericial
product. You'd have to give it away. Notice that Ascend's RADIUS is
based directly on our code, they can't sell it because of that.

But you can always write your own code from the ground up to meet the
spec.

-MZ

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