Re:Start/Stop packets / real-time user accounting not possible

Steve Hsieh (steveh@eecs.umich.edu)
Wed, 14 Aug 1996 02:52:11 -0400 (EDT)

MegaZone <megazone@livingston.com> writes:

> >If on the other hand, 'no hosts' is turned off so that the user is
> >disconnected upon termination of the current session, then it *is*
> >possible to do real time accounting. Is this an accurate statement?If
> >so, is this a bug with the portmaster or intentional in design (and if so,
> >why?!)?
>
> 'no hangup' is meant for abnormal operation.
>
> >own pm setup? How do you get around this?
>
> Why the heck do you have 'no hangup' on?

Megazone, thanks for the response.

I have 'no hangup' on so that when someone connects via a dumb terminal
session, they can log into one host, log out, and log into a different
host without having to log off. I don't see why this meant for abnormal
operation. Since we are not really an ISP, but rather
provide connectivity for our (university) departmental users who have
accounts on numerous machines, this seemed to make sense.

Are you saying that to connect to two different hosts, it is common
practice to force the user to hang up and dial back? Also, having no
hangup set also allows one to do things like display a message of the day,
view who's currently logged in (through a telnet session to pmwho), etc.
Merit sets 'no hangup' as well, and they take full advantage of it,
offering help screens through gopher and the like. Ctrl-D still serves
the purpose of dropping DTR and hanging up. [I wonder how they figure out
the difference between a STOP and an MODEM_STOP, both of which are defined
in their Merit radius LAS code)]

Steve