Re: Adtran async/sync DSU 5600 with PM's

Michael C. Nerone (nerone@legend.txdirect.net)
Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:06:12 -0500 (CDT)

As far as I know, v.34x is a bi-directional *protocol*, but from what
results of testing and benchmarking I've seen in various mags (PC Mag,
etc), it is common for modem manufacturers' implementations to falter when
doing bi-directional transfers, yielding significantly slower throughputs.
Then again, some do it pretty well, so YMMV. Don't have the data with me,
so I won't mention any brands.

On the other hand, I could be mistaken. :)

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On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Michael Dillon wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Sep 1995, Jon Lusky wrote:
>
> > I believe V.34 is full duplex, but the sum of the bandwidth in both directions
> > is 28.8k. Ie, if you you're punding it in both directions at once, you
> > should see about 14.4k thruput each way. A 56k DDS has 56k in each direction.
>
> Lets look at v.32bis which I know well. This is considered to be 14400 bps
> and I know from experience transferring precompressed files (.ZIP) that
> you can generally get 1650 chars per second (Z-modem) through that kind of
> link. Since 14400 divded by 8 bits per char is 1800 and there must be some
> overhead to handle the v.42bis protocol this seems to show that a v.32bis
> modem really can send 14400 bps in one direction at a time. In the BBS
> world there are alternate bi-directional protocols like Hydra that will
> send in both directions simultaneously and I have tested them and found
> that I still get at least 1500 cps or better on transfers. This indicates
> that v.32bis is capable of 14400 bps in both directions simultaneously.
>
> The documentation for Hydra and other bi-directional protocols points out
> that all modems 2400 bps and greater are fully bi-directional except
> those using USR's HST protocol. Since this info predates v.34 it may not
> apply there but I have never read anywhere that v.34 achieved it's high
> speeds by stealing bandwidth from the backchannel so I don't think this
> to be true. I believe that v.34 and v.34+ are fully bi-directional at
> 28,800 bps for both channels.
>
> Since the discussion started with async/sync DSU's does anyone remember
> some timing tests reported on an ISP list sometime within the past 6
> months were they found that the async/sync conversion dropped the
> effective bandwidth to little more that the async alone?
>
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