Re: Shell accounts (fwd) - how to handle 'em from the PM

alex (alex@agetech.net)
Fri, 07 Jun 1996 09:08:58 -0400

Judd Bourgeois wrote:
>
> On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Robert Hof wrote:
>
> > We have our main shell machine set up as the default host, and if a person
> > logs into the pm with (win95 examples here) hyperterm, they get
> > automatically "rloginned" to that machine, and use shell to their heart's
> > content. If they dial in with dialup networking, they authenticate using
> > PAP, and go on their merry web-way. No Puser, no Suser (lots of Lusers tho'
> > ;-) ), everyone seems happy. Did I just hit on a magical solution, or am I
> > in the dark on some big problem with doing things that way?
>
> We're doing the same thing here. People with PPP or PPP/shell accounts
> automatically get a PPP session when they dialin. People with shell only
> get rlogin'd to the shell machine. The assumption is if that someone
> wants PPP _and_ shell, that they always want a PPP session started & they
> can then telnet in to the shell machine.
>
> If you ask for a PPP account, you will ostensibly be using it from
> someplace that supports PPP, so we don't bother with any of the
> prefix/suffix stuff. I suppose you could say what if someone with a PPP
> account might want to dial in from some old computer with just a terminal
> program? Not to sound flippant, but if they wanted a direct shell
> dialup they should have asked for it in the first place. I suppose we
> could implement the prefix thing for just people with PPP/shell accounts,
> but no one's asked for that yet.
>
> In any case, are there any major problems with this? It seems, no, it
> IS, incredibly easy for us to maintain (especially with default rules in
> place) and makes more sense as well.
>
> shag
>
> Judd Bourgeois | When we are planning for posterity,
> shagboy@thecia.net | we ought to remember that virtue is
> Finger for PGP key | not hereditary. Thomas Paine

The way we have it set up is with radius esva. The users uses PAP with Windows 95 or Winsock and get an automatic PPP
connection, or if they use a script then can add .ppp for ppp or .slip for a slip or .cslip for a Compressed slip
connection to the end of their user name and they alo get a PPP connection. If the user uses a terminal program,
they get automatically RLogged in to their shell. Works great!!!!! All I need now is a way to get duplicate users
from getting on.

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