Re: (Fwd) PM3 vs USR TC (fwd)

MegaZone (megazone@livingston.com)
Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:02:28 -0700 (PDT)

Once upon a time Holger Koepke shaped the electrons to say...
>> I was asked about this in email:
>And YOU are asking for a reply :-)

Hey, we're always open to feedback.

>> * Going by their docs you also need the Network Management Card and
>> Total control manager. More stuff to buy. I can't compare price as,
>> again, they don't seem to put that up anywhere.
>Hey! But they HAVE a fine SNMP solution! And you DON'T need this stuff to

Yes they do, and our SNMP support is weak. We know. What we'd love to
hear is a detailed request for just what you want to see in SNMP support.
Improving SNMP is on the engineering agenda for this year (our year starts
in September) and user feedback will greatly help shape that. Demand for
improved SNMP has sort of been a low key issue, always there but not high
volume. We respond to demand. But as we complete high demand items like
OSPF and BGP we will have resources to turn to projects like SNMP.

Let us know what you want, and for those who really want SNMP and haven't
asked for it - Ask for it! (Not on the list please, I'm sure everyone doesn't
want to read that. Send it to sales@livingston.com - although the discussion
of what it desired might work here...)

>configure the modem/netserver/PRI-card. We are waiting a long time now, to ha

So you can run a TC without the Network Management card? Ok, their docs
certainly do not make that clear - quite the opposite:
<BLOCKQUOTE>
PRI Access System Minimum Requirements

NETServer PRI Card with version 3.1 software
Dual PRI Card Set with 3.0 firmware
Quad Modem Card Sets with 3.0 software
(for processing analog calls)
Network Management Card with versions 4.0 software
Total Control Manager with version 4.0 software
</BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know, to me it certainly sounds like they intend for you to buy
it - 'minimum requirements'.

>MLPPP, PPTP,

We do MLPPP.

We looked at PPTP and rejected it. It is a badly designed protocol - have
you looked at the specs? Yuck.

We're working on a HW encryption option to do VPN in a much cleaner fashion.

>2x Powersupplies (1 Backup - Do you have backup PS?)

No we do not. But our failure rate is so low it is a shock when a
powersupply goes... I've been here over a year and have never heard from
a customer with a failed PS. I'm sure it does happen, maybe I can get figures
on that...

>That means, that you are free to put in, what fits. You can have (in europe,
>because of E1) 4x Dual-PRI with 8 spanlines, which are 240 lines, with 4
>Netservers 60. Than you have 8 slots for modems=24 analogports.

I'm slightly confused.

17 slots. 1 NMC.
16 slots. 4 Dual PRI cards, 240 lines
12 slots. 12 Quad modem cards = 48 modems, 48 analog ports.

Or did I miss something?

Which means 192 ISDN only ports...

Are you looking for a high-density, ISDN only solution? If people want that,
speak up. As I've said, we respond to demand.

Shooting from the hip here (ie, don't even think of holding me to it or
holding anyone else to it) I could see a chassis that takes mulitple main
boards from a PM-3 and does just ISDN. Of course you'd have an ethernet
interface for each 2 PRIs... Maybe a new board with no ether... Maybe a
new design entirely, just based on the PM-3 technology... Etc...

But we can't build a product to meet requirements we haven't seen. So if
people are looking for a high density PRI solution, speak up. Tell your
sales reps what you want. The PM-3 is in response to demand for an
integrated ISDN/analog solution. We heard you and acted.

>the 18th and 19th slot are for PSs.

Ok, thanks.

-MZ

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