Re: Pm3.3.2c1 upgrade (fwd)

MegaZone (megazone@livingston.com)
Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:55:02 -0700 (PDT)

Once upon a time Rich Adamson shaped the electrons to say...
>>And what "very significate list of serious problems with PMconsole for

These are significant or serious?

>1. Default routing entries are not displayed,

I'm not sure what you mean. Where? Doing what?

>2. The Edit cut and paste is not functional (published), although
> ctrl-C and ctrl-V do work,

That is annoying yes, hardly a significant problem. Especially when
the control keys still work.

>3. Editing host tables causes a PMconsole GPF (and loss of Windows
> Resources) when the host table exceeds 982 bytes (approx
> 43 host entries),

See answer to 4.

>4. Host table allows complete duplicate entries, duplicate IP's,
> and/or duplicate names (with different IP's),

Yes, it does. And it does on the command line too. You can have
more than one name on an IP. The host table is *DIRT STUPID*. It
is not even meant for regular use, and we discourage its use. It
is there for the few customers who really need it because they do
not have DNS. The proper way to use a PM is to have DNS working
or to use IPs. The Host Table is there for emergency backup use
for the most part. If you have 43 host entries, you aren't using
it as it ws meant to be used. And it is implemented as a completely
simple lookup table. It is up to the human to know that they are
doing. We're not going to error check for every possible screwup.
Sysadmins should know better than to give the same name to two IPs.
But two names to the same IP is legitimate.

Not a real problem, IMHO.

>5. Following an "upgrade", spuradically will receive an error
> window mentioning something about 'cannot write to AUX port',

Is it reproducable? Anyone else see this? Unless we can reproduce
it we can't fix it. This is the first report of it I have seen.

>6. No checking for configuration version change problems that
> we are now all becoming somewhat sensitive to even though the
> information to do so is available to PMconsole,

I don't believe this is correct. Upgrading from what to what? If
you go from say 3.0.4 to 3.3.1 I'm faily certain you will get a
warning.

What upgrade did you test where you expected to get a message and
did not?

>7. The greater the amount of traffic moving through a PM2 when
> doing an "upgrade" from PMconsole, the higher the probability
> of corruption following a reboot,

This is something that one or two peop;e have have reported as a possible
problem due to circumstantial evidence. Has it been reported as a bug
via support? (Not that I know of, but I don't know everything that
has been going on.) Is it a PMconsole for Windows bug - which is
what we were talking about? Even if it is a bug, it is probably not
related to PMWin as it was reported with UNIX pmconsole. AFAIK we
have not seen hard evidence of it happening, just some interesting
reports from users based on what circumstantial evidence.

>8. When editing serial port values, the number of data bits does
> not appear on the screen, and apparently cannot be changed
> without telneting to the box or using a directly connected
> console port to edit the value from the PM2 command line.

PMconsole for Windows is deliberately restrictive. It is meant to
limit the number of things configured - like not configuring speeds
seperately. Since 99.99% of the users are 8N1, it generally causes
more problems that it helps. And most of our advanced users, who
are the ones likely to be changing things like that, report that they
never use PMconsole and prefer the command line. So it was written
for a specific audience.

>All of these have been seen from multiple WFW 3.11 machines
>configured in several different ways, and are otherwise very
>stable PC's.

I have never had a problem with it on my WfWG 3.11 486-DX75 notebook,
and that notebook is a stew of weird drivers because I test stuff on
it. And a great many people report no problems running it. I'm sure
it acts weird on some PCs - so does MS-Word.

-MZ

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