> -----Original Message-----
> From: A PM3 User - Resident Lackey [mailto:pmuser@speedynet.net]
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 12:45
> To: James Courtier-Dutton
> Subject: RE: (PM) Still in a jam with dialbacks... looking to pay for a
> fix :)
>
>
> Hey James?
>
> Would you be interested in floating a short description in sort
> of laymen's
> terms about why it works with analog but not ISDN TA's?
>
> Just curious, and trying to stay on top of things... not doing well of
> course, but always trying ;)
>
> Thanks!
> -Scott
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: James Courtier-Dutton [mailto:dutton@livingston-ent.co.uk]
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 1:50 PM
> >To: A PM3 User - Resident Lackey
> >Cc: owner-portmaster-users@livingston.com
> >Subject: RE: (PM) Still in a jam with dialbacks... looking to pay for a
> >fix :)
> >
> >
> >Hello Scott
> >You could even use call-check, then the incoming call to the PM3 could be
> >rejected before the call is answered, based on Caller-ID. This would then
> >reduce the charges even further.
> >Cheers
> >James
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: A PM3 User - Resident Lackey [mailto:pmuser@speedynet.net]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 06:12
> >> To: James Courtier-Dutton
> >> Cc: owner-portmaster-users@livingston.com
> >> Subject: RE: (PM) Still in a jam with dialbacks... looking to pay for a
> >> fix :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Hey James...
> >> Thanks for the info... I'll have to see what we come up with... I
> >> don't mind
> >> giving them a static IP...
> >> The issue at this point is that the local Telco charges ANY business
> >> customer (in my state, Ohio) a per minte fee for their ISDN
> >access... it's
> >> pretty frustrating actually, making it virtually impossible to get a
> >> business to go with ISDN.
> >>
> >> Our PRI is only charged a puny few cents for each call made... so if we
> >> could establish dialbacks to business customers in a dedicated
> fashion (I
> >> realy only want to dial him once if I could help it... but of course
> >> dialback if he line drops) we can save them a really large chunk
> >> of change,
> >> and pick up a great deal of business... the phone bills are
> >> outrageous when
> >> connected 24/7 so having them send them our way won't do much good.
> >>
> >> I think he has an ascend pipeline as an ISDN router... I'll have
> >to see if
> >> we can get it to receive dialbacks from the PM3... it'll sort
> of hurt if
> >> they need to buy a new piece of hardware... but weigh it against their
> >> current phone bills and I think it will make it an easier
> >> decision to make.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> -Scott
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: James Courtier-Dutton [mailto:dutton@livingston-ent.co.uk]
> >> >Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 12:14 PM
> >> >To: A PM3 User - Resident Lackey
> >> >Subject: RE: (PM) Still in a jam with dialbacks... looking to
> pay for a
> >> >fix :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hello Scott
> >> >Well, I know Lucent ORs will work, if that helps at all.
> >> >The process will be as follows:-
> >> >Remote router dials in and does LCP and PAP/CHAP
> >> >The Central PM3 knows they are a dialback user, and kicks them off.
> >> >The Central PM3 then dials using a location entry.
> >> >This therefore means that dialback users will need static IP
> addresses.
> >> >I personnally think that you should start thinking of ways round the
> >> >dialback problem.
> >> >1) Free incoming calls (in UK this is 0800 xxxxx)
> >> >2) Let the people dialing in, just send you their phone bill,
> >so they can
> >> >claim it back.
> >> >3) Use Radius accounting to find out how long they have been
> on and just
> >> >send them a check each week or month.
> >> >Good Luck
> >> >James
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: A PM3 User - Resident Lackey [mailto:pmuser@speedynet.net]
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 04:57
> >> >> To: James Courtier-Dutton
> >> >> Subject: RE: (PM) Still in a jam with dialbacks... looking to
> >pay for a
> >> >> fix :)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> DOH! :)
> >> >> Hmmmm... so is it basically the necessity of an ISDN router?
> >Would any
> >> >> office router work?
> >> >> Thanks for the note ;) That's going to make it a whole new
> ball game.
> >> >>
> >> >> -Scott
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >From: James Courtier-Dutton [mailto:dutton@livingston-ent.co.uk]
> >> >> >Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:15 AM
> >> >> >To: A PM3 User - Resident Lackey; portmaster-users@livingston.com
> >> >> >Subject: RE: (PM) Still in a jam with dialbacks... looking to
> >> pay for a
> >> >> >fix :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Hello Scott
> >> >> >Ah, you said nothing to me about ISDN before, It will work with
> >> >> a Modem, It
> >> >> >will not work with ISDN.
> >> >> >I suggest you keep your "pay for a fix" money and spend it on
> >> >an OR. Give
> >> >> >the customer the OR
> >> >> >You will then get dialback ISDN with no problems. (OR to OR,
> >> PM3 to OR)
> >> >> >Cheers
> >> >> >James
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> From: owner-portmaster-users@livingston.com
> >> >> >> [mailto:owner-portmaster-users@livingston.com]On Behalf Of A
> >> >PM3 User -
> >> >> >> Resident Lackey
> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 04:50
> >> >> >> To: portmaster-users@livingston.com
> >> >> >> Subject: (PM) Still in a jam with dialbacks... looking to pay
> >> >for a fix
> >> >> >> :)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hey all!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Here's the situation... I'm still admin-less at the moment
> >> and swamped
> >> >> >> trying to hold down the office fort... I've got a new customer
> >> >> >> that will get
> >> >> >> a dedicated ISDN line with us BUT I have to have
> dialbacks working.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> James has been quite kind to work with me on this, but so far
> >> >> >I'm just not
> >> >> >> able to get it to work. At this point, for fear of losing
> >> >> this potential
> >> >> >> customer, I'm completely open to sub-contracting this little
> >> >> >task out with
> >> >> >> someone via phone support to get it to work.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Basically I need to get my PM3 to dialback an NT 4 server....
> >> >> I have been
> >> >> >> testing it with my laptop running NT4 server and an analog
> >> >> >> connection at the
> >> >> >> moment, figuring it won't be much of a change to go 128K ISDN.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Right now there are just too many things going on for me to
> >> >> get this all
> >> >> >> done, anyone interested in working with me to get this setup?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have a filling I'm very close to finishing, and someone that
> >> >> has "been
> >> >> >> here, done that" will most likely be able to wrap this up
> >> >> quickly... I'm
> >> >> >> willing to compensate for time :)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks a bunch!
> >> >> >> -Scott A. Karlo
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