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Portmaster Users Digest Saturday, 9 September 1995 Volume 95 : Number 244
Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
Re: Sleep
Re: ANNOUNCE: pm2_3.1.3c2 fixes Telnet break problem
Re: Sleep
Re: IRX-111, Bitsurfr, Bad CRC, MRU Overflow
Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me? (fwd)
ppp_sync
Re: ppp_sync
Re: ANNOUNCE: pm2_3.1.3c2 fixes Telnet break problem
Re: ANNOUNCE: pm2_3.1.3c2 fixes Telnet break problem
Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me? (fwd)
Re: How to backup a portmaster config
Re: ANNOUNCE: pm2_3.1.3c2 fixes Telnet break problem
Re: ANNOUNCE: pm2_3.1.3c2 fixes Telnet break problem
Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
After the Telnet Bug - Filter Question
Re: After the Telnet Bug - Filter Question
Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
RIP on Livingston Portmasters...
Re: RIP on Livingston Portmasters...
user selectable protocols
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Tim Keanini <blast@crl.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:02:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Chris Woods wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Dr. Delete Ph.D. wrote:
>
> > I'm waiting for crash-portmaster-worm.c to show up on Internet...
> >
> > It'd be quite trivial to code.
>
> Quite.
>
> > Almost as trivial as it is to FIX this problem..
> >
> > Just use packet filters, people :-) sheesh..
>
> Of course, we all realize that is not the *real* fix for the *real*
> problem, but it is a band-aid for now, and works.
The fact of the matter really is that "BUGS HAPPEN"!
If ANYONE is concerned about security, they should be using tools to help
them implement a "LEAST PRIVILEGE" environment. PACKET FILTERS,
WRAPPERS, chrooted processes, proxies, 'chflags' files, all help in the
fight. What you dont want to have is a arms race by which you hear about
something like this bug and then you have to go and close it up.
Basically, by the time you hear about the problem, it is too late.
If you admin these things from just a few machines, by all means make
sure it is only those machien that can make the connection. In fact, if
any other IPs try and make the connection, I hope someones pager will
start to ring. :-)
- --blast
------------------------------
From: Chris Woods <cjwoods@usa1.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 02:41:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Sleep
On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Robert Hanson wrote:
> >
> >
> > Luckly I wasn't so careless as to do it to one of my remote POPs.
> > Carl, you running on too little sleep like us ISP's? <grin>
> > ^
> > -Matt Mannhardt |
> > |
> |
> i cant find this word anywhere ----|
I think that's what normal people do when they're not working. What a
concept: "not working"
This business is killer! ;-) But I love every minute of it...
Chris Woods Senior System Administrator USAinternet, Inc.
GCS/CM/IT d- s++:+ a- C++++$ ULS++++$ P+++$>++++ L++++$ E W$ N+ !o
K++ !w--- !O !M-- !V-- PS+? !PE !Y+>++ PGP+ t+@ !5 X !R tv? b+ DI++
D+@ G++ e h---- r+++ y++++
cjwoods@usa1.net http://www.usa1.com 508-774-4700
------------------------------
From: Robert Hanson <roberth@cet.cet.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:57:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: pm2_3.1.3c2 fixes Telnet break problem
> > > Luckly I wasn't so careless as to do it to one of my remote POPs.
> > > Carl, you running on too little sleep like us ISP's? <grin>
> > > -Matt Mannhardt ^
> > > |
On Fri,8 Sep95, Robert Hanson wrote: |
> > i cant find this word anywhere ----|
> > Dictionary? Internet Search?? CDROM Encyclopedia?
- -----
Then Matt said...
> Empirical evidence sugguest that "sleep" is that portion of the day that
> is un-accounted for, except for the stiff neck as you lift your chin off
> your chest and the appearance of a row/screen full of a repeated character
> in your email message you were typing. <no, your keyboard is not going
> bad, you've just experience some of that illusive "sleep" :->
> -Matt Mannhardt (WL7CDE), mattm@alaska.net (Postmaster), support@alaska.net
> Internet Alaska, Inc. 4050 Lake Otis ste #107a, Anchorage Ak. 99508 562-4638
>
okay... now i understand.... wakeup in chair to phone in morn at 6:30
am with kybd in lap.... gotcha! :)
- -rh
------------------------------
From: Robert Hanson <roberth@cet.cet.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:59:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Sleep
On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Chris Woods wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Robert Hanson wrote:
>
> > >
> > >
> > > Luckly I wasn't so careless as to do it to one of my remote POPs.
> > > Carl, you running on too little sleep like us ISP's? <grin>
> > > ^
> > > -Matt Mannhardt |
> > > |
> > |
> > i cant find this word anywhere ----|
>
> I think that's what normal people do when they're not working. What a
> concept: "not working"
>
> This business is killer! ;-) But I love every minute of it...
>
> Chris Woods Senior System Administrator USAinternet, Inc.
> cjwoods@usa1.net http://www.usa1.com 508-774-4700
no doubt!! usual day is 18 hrs... im still at it at this sec since 6am...
- -rh
------------------------------
From: Jeremy Porter <jerry@fc.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 03:14:21 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: IRX-111, Bitsurfr, Bad CRC, MRU Overflow
You don't say if you are connecting the Motorola to
a ASYNC port or a SYNC port. I've used Adtran TAs with
the V.35 to talk Cisco-Cisco and same should work with
the IRX. My understanding is the motorola uses a software
async-sync conversion, so if one end is setup for async-sync
and the other for async-async you will see problems.
Never heard of a mulitport ASYNC card for a 7000. m (Have
heard of mulitport sync cards tho..). If I was doing
sync on the cisco, and I would use 2 adtrans with V.35 cables
and plug it into the sync port on the IRX.
Using async-sync conversion is just a really bad idea.
Motorola Bitsurfr's are ISDN toys anyway.
>All,
>
>I have an IRX-111 with s0 connected to a Motorola Bitsurfr ISDN Modem setup
>as IP x.x.x.1 on a full Class C talking to a remote Bitsurfr TA connected
>to an async multiport card in a Cisco 7000.
>
>The Cisco sees everything after LCP and IPCP open as Bad CRC. Eventually,
>packet trace shows the same inbound to the IRX, after about 5-10 minutes,
>which ends in a symphony of Bad CRC, Bad Frame - MRU Overflow, and a few
>remote_slifrecv: Limited expansion room - packet lost messages that seem to
>have somehow been omitted from the pamphlet, er, documentation.
>
>Due to the bad CRC from the remote's perspective, no pings across the ISDN
>line return. The remote TA does show activity that matches the ping timing
>pattern while it is being pinged.
>
>The current IRX in use is the third IRX-111 I've tried, and the Motorola
>the second ISDN TA after an Adtran failure to talk to a Motorola async at
>115.2Kbps. I'm about to attempt to install all the equipment into an
>existing working ISDN setup as a test to rule out ISDN line problems. This
>test will also use a variety of software and hardware setups that the
>IRX-111 to test line/TA, then include the IRX to test router/TA.
>
>After all this wind, what I want is two things:
>1.) Is there anyone with a configuration anywhere near this that is working
>and who can offer some detailed assistance? My efforts with Livingston
>Technical Support seemed to result in a collective shrug. My last contact
>resulted in an escalation to Carl Rigney that hasn't materialized.
>
>2.) Can anyone offer any additional ideas to aid the testing and eventual
>use of this configuration?
>
>-Steve.
>
>
- --
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Jeremy Porter (512)-339-6094 Freeside Communications, Inc. info@fc.net |
| jerry@fc.net (512)-339-4466 (data) P.O. Box 530264 Austin, TX 78753 |
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
From: System Administrator <admin@sierra.valleynet.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 04:44:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
Doesn't a bug such as this merit an immediate patch? ie: send 3.1.4 out
with this patched and continue to develop the next version but make it 3.1.5?
On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Brian 'MegaZone' Bikowicz wrote:
> Once upon a time Robert Sanders shaped the electrons to say...
> >Wonderful! I think you can guess the inevitable question...
> > -- Robert "When should we hope to see 3.1.4?" Sanders
>
> First - as I said, I'm not holding my breath. I'm a cautious person and
> I didn't get to try enough to satisfy myself. So please don't start expecting
> a definite 'fix' based on one brief test. I will do more when I can.
>
> I can't give you any firm dates on 3.1.4, other than some testing is going
> on now. We don't annouce any product dates ahead of time - Win95 anyone? ;-)
>
> As with all releases, there will be an announcement for 3.1.4 when it is
> available. If, at that time, I haven't given a report on the send brk, prod
> me and I'll be sure to do it. I'm constantly frazzled, there is always more
> to do than time to do it.
>
> -MZ
> --
> Livingston Enterprises Technical Support
> Phone: 800-458-9966 FAX: 510-426-8951
> support@livingston.com <http://www.livingston.com/>
> 6920 Koll Center Parkway #220, Pleasanton, CA 94566
>
>
>
Daniel Duffy _\\|//_
Vice President/Founder/Computer Geek (-0-0-)
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------------------------------
From: System Administrator <admin@sierra.valleynet.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 04:52:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me? (fwd)
On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Brian 'MegaZone' Bikowicz wrote:
> I'm a bit amused by the mad panic, like it needs to be fixed yesterday or
> the world will end. Calm down, breathe deep, relax - the odds are extremely
> low that someone will decide to exploit this out of the blue. We know about
> it, and it will be addressed.
It is not the end of the world but for an ISP, this could mean big
trouble. How concerned would Livingston be if someone on this list had
the security codes to your building and we all knew about it?
> Life is to short to get too worried about something like this. It can be
> prevented already.
Maybe for you life is too short but this is our business. Perhaps if you
had your tail on the line you'd get worried too.
Daniel Duffy _\\|//_
Vice President/Founder/Computer Geek (-0-0-)
- ---------------------------------------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo----
ValleyNet Communications - Central California's Premier Internet Provider
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Voice: (209) 486-VNET (8638) 2300 Tulare, Suite 100
Fax: (209) 495-4940 Fresno, CA 93721-2226
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==============================================================================
------------------------------
From: Joseph McDonald <joe@smartlink.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 04:54:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: ppp_sync
What are the possible causes of:
port S1 ppp_sync failed dest
This message occurs in the log file just after a successful radius
authentication, and I can't ping the remote device. Show sessions just
shows that port "Connecting".
Thanks,
- -joe
------------------------------
From: Jonathan Dasteel <jbd@frontier.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 06:13:04 -0600
Subject: Re: ppp_sync
>>>>> "Joseph" == Joseph McDonald <joe@smartlink.net> writes:
Joseph> What are the possible causes of:
Joseph> port S1 ppp_sync failed dest
Joseph> This message occurs in the log file just after a
Joseph> successful radius authentication, and I can't ping the
Joseph> remote device. Show sessions just shows that port
Joseph> "Connecting".
Joseph> Thanks, -joe
The machine dialing into the portmaster never started PPP, probably a
connect script problem. The PC should either start PPP directly after
sending the password, or wait for ``~'', which is the first protocol
character.
``sho ses'' says connecting 'cuz it is waiting for protocol response from
the other end.
- --jbd
------------------------------
From: Leo Savage <leo@esva.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:34:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: pm2_3.1.3c2 fixes Telnet break problem
Thanks, Carl! With your help (and a little boning up) I think I have what
I need. Here is my slightly altered version of your filter:
add filter notelnet.in
set filter notelnet.in 1 permit svr_ip/32 pm_ip/32 tcp dst eq 23 estab
set filter notelnet.in 2 permit svr_ip/32 pm_ip/32 tcp dst eq 23 log
set filter notelnet.in 3 deny 0.0.0.0/0 pm_ip/32 tcp dst eq 23 log
set filter notelnet.in 4 permit
set ether0 ifilter notelnet.in
save all
Where "svr_ip" is the IP address of the server that is now (hopefully)
the only machine that can telnet to the Portmaster, and "pm_ip" is the IP
address of the Portmaster.
One minor point. Before I actually gave the "save all" command, I broke
the telnet connection to my Portmaster and then reconnected, to make
absolutely sure that I wasn't filtering out myself (figuring I could
always cycle power as long as I hadn't saved).
This filter has a small advantage over yours in that yours always logged
everything, including just about every byte transferred during a legal
telnet session to the Portmaster. This filter only logs a permitted
session once.
- --
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. . `; -._ )-;-,_`)
(v_,)' _ )`-.\ ``-' leo@esva.net
_.- _..-_/ / ((.'
((,.-' ((,/ http://www.esva.net/~leo/
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From: Robert Hanson <roberth@cet.cet.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:23:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: pm2_3.1.3c2 fixes Telnet break problem
this didnt appear to work properly. outbound telnets didnt work and the
inbound still did... what about the wan port address side and what have
you? anyone? :)
- -rh
On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Matt Mannhardt wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Carl Rigney wrote:
>
> ...
> > add filter notelnet.in
> > add filter notelnet.in 1 permit 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.2.2/32 tcp dst eq 23 log
> > add filter notelnet.in 2 deny 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.2.2/32 tcp dst eq 23 log
> > add filter notelnet.in 3 permit
> > set ether0 ifilter notelnet.in
> > save all
> >
>
> Should read:
>
> add filter notelnet.in
> set filter notelnet.in 1 permit 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.2.2/32 tcp dst eq 23 log
> ^^^
> set filter notelnet.in 2 deny 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.2.2/32 tcp dst eq 23 log
> ^^^
> set filter notelnet.in 3 permit
> ^^^
> set ether0 ifilter notelnet.in
> save all
>
>
> Luckly I wasn't so careless as to do it to one of my remote POPs.
> Carl, you running on too little sleep like us ISP's? <grin>
>
>
> -Matt Mannhardt (WL7CDE), mattm@alaska.net (Postmaster), support@alaska.net
> Internet Alaska, Inc. 4050 Lake Otis ste #107a, Anchorage Ak. 99508 562-4638
> * PPP dialups at 28.8kbs, starting at $165/6 mo. - no other charges!
>
------------------------------
From: Robert Hanson <roberth@cet.cet.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:54:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me? (fwd)
id still like to see a posted "working" packet filter fix... i tried the
posted one and it didn't "appear" to work like i expected... i could
still telnet there from the other side of the cloud etc etc... anyone?
- -rh
On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Brian 'MegaZone' Bikowicz wrote:
> Once upon a time Chris B. Wilson, VectorNet shaped the electrons to say...
> >So livingston's technical support department is telling us "not to worry
> >about it"?.. What if this gets farther than this list, and I have the
> >tight competiton in town rebooting my terminal server.. don't worry about
>
> No, that is not what I said. I said I wouldn't/don't personally think of
> it as a bug, it is a console feature. But I also understand the worry, and
> I've already (as in the moment I reporodced it) sent the info up the tree to
> be worked on.
>
> 1. There is a workaround (which I would think anyone worried about security
> would have done already) - packet filtering.
> 2. In *very* brief testing it didn't reboot a unit running a new beta.
> 3. This 'bug' has been around nigh unto forever - how many reports have there
> been of PMs being reset willy-nilly with it?
>
> I'm a bit amused by the mad panic, like it needs to be fixed yesterday or
> the world will end. Calm down, breathe deep, relax - the odds are extremely
> low that someone will decide to exploit this out of the blue. We know about
> it, and it will be addressed.
>
> Life is to short to get too worried about something like this. It can be
> prevented already.
>
> -MZ
> --
> Livingston Enterprises Technical Support
> Phone: 800-458-9966 FAX: 510-426-8951
> support@livingston.com <http://www.livingston.com/>
> 6920 Koll Center Parkway #220, Pleasanton, CA 94566
>
------------------------------
From: Robert Hanson <roberth@cet.cet.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 09:58:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: How to backup a portmaster config
are we allowed to talk about the windows pmconsole software on here yet?
thanks
- -rh
On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Kim Hendrikse wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What is the standard way to backup (Off the machine) and restore the
> configuration of a portmaster. I haven't seen any mention of tftp anywhere and
> I don't have any Suns around.
>
> - Kim Hendrikse
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From: Robert Sanders <rsanders@mindspring.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:19:48 -0400
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: pm2_3.1.3c2 fixes Telnet break problem
Kudos to Livingston for such an excellent response! I'll definitely
install this Monday.
We've been re-evaluating our choice of terminal server platforms, and
it gladdens my heart to see that Livingston cares about its customers.
If everything goes well in our tests, we'll be ripping out a lot of
Netblazers and cisco 2511s and replacing them with PMs.
Thanks,
-- Robert
------------------------------
From: sysadmin@neonramp.com (System Administrator)
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 1995 13:12:17 -0500
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: pm2_3.1.3c2 fixes Telnet break problem
At 12:34 PM 9/9/95 -0400, Leo Savage wrote:
>
>add filter notelnet.in
>set filter notelnet.in 1 permit svr_ip/32 pm_ip/32 tcp dst eq 23 estab
>set filter notelnet.in 2 permit svr_ip/32 pm_ip/32 tcp dst eq 23 log
>set filter notelnet.in 3 deny 0.0.0.0/0 pm_ip/32 tcp dst eq 23 log
>set filter notelnet.in 4 permit
>set ether0 ifilter notelnet.in
>save all
>
OK, I used the modified packet filters which effectively denies access to
only those hosts which I want to connect on my base network. Unfortunately
it does not block incoming from my second, third or fourth ip blocks. Why?
I used the above example modifying only to add the specific hosts which I
wanted to give access to (and not using the estab parameter since it seemed
to disable use of pmwho, and also not the log param on the permit since the
connection is logged anyways) How do I block dialin users on other IP blocks
from telnetting in without setting up a packet filter for dialin?
System Administrator
Nebraska On-Ramp, Inc.
Papillion, NE 68046
(402)339-NEON (6366)
================================
NEON- Your On-Ramp to the World!
================================
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From: "Brian 'MegaZone' Bikowicz" <megazone>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:59:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
Once upon a time System Administrator shaped the electrons to say...
>Doesn't a bug such as this merit an immediate patch? ie: send 3.1.4 out
>with this patched and continue to develop the next version but make it 3.1.5?
As you already know, there is a patched 3.1.3c2 available.
Rushing a release is bad - it has only started testing, and is not ready
right now for release.
How good would it be if it fixed this problem and intorduced others, maybe
worse?
I used to work for another firm that would release SW without a lot of
testing because of demand, or because marketing put the pressure on - and
I can't tell you how many *major* bugs showed up after customers were
running it that testing should have caught.
Things like PPP stopped working. Spontaneous rebooting every few hours...
I am very happy to be with Livingston now where the driving force is
quality. I'm very impressed with both the hardware and software - and I'm
*not* saying that because I work here now. But it is one of the reasons I
*do* work here now.
It is also a reason for not promising a date until it is ready - Win95 anyone?
- -MZ
- --
Livingston Enterprises Technical Support
Phone: 800-458-9966 FAX: 510-426-8951
support@livingston.com <http://www.livingston.com/>
6920 Koll Center Parkway #220, Pleasanton, CA 94566
------------------------------
From: mmoskal@cyberlink.bc.ca (Mike Moskal)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:18:49 -0600
Subject: After the Telnet Bug - Filter Question
After the telnet bug was discovered I too added a new filter to my filter set.
I was wondering what should one have in a filter set to discourage hackers etc.
I only have filters for certain common problems but I would LOVE if someone
could lay out in plan english with examples an idea filter set - for us isp's
- -mike
=======================================
#!/sh
#
# Signature Script
# -Last Updated Jun 5 /95
#
echo "Mike A. Moskal"
echo "Systems Administrator"
echo "Cyberlink Systems Corp."
echo "Telnet: cyberlink.bc.ca"
echo "WWW: http://www.cyberlink.bc.ca"
echo "EMAIL: mmoskal@cyberlink.bc.ca"
exit 1
========================================
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From: "Brian 'MegaZone' Bikowicz" <megazone>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 13:56:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: After the Telnet Bug - Filter Question
Once upon a time Mike Moskal shaped the electrons to say...
>I was wondering what should one have in a filter set to discourage hackers etc
>I only have filters for certain common problems but I would LOVE if someone
>could lay out in plan english with examples an idea filter set - for us isp's
In general terms, for any equipment, there is one book that is a *must*
for those with security concerns -
"Firewalls and Internet Security: Repelling the Wily Hacker" bu Willian R.
Cheswick and Steven M. Bellovin. ISBN 0-201-63357-4 from Addison Wesley
They put it in plain English (well, Technical English ;-) ) and it is easy
to translate to particular formats.
- -MZ
- --
Livingston Enterprises Technical Support
Phone: 800-458-9966 FAX: 510-426-8951
support@livingston.com <http://www.livingston.com/>
6920 Koll Center Parkway #220, Pleasanton, CA 94566
------------------------------
From: "Chris B. Wilson, VectorNet" <cbw@vector.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 18:16:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Brian 'MegaZone' Bikowicz wrote:
> I used to work for another firm that would release SW without a lot of
> testing because of demand, or because marketing put the pressure on - and
> I can't tell you how many *major* bugs showed up after customers were
> running it that testing should have caught.
>
> Things like PPP stopped working. Spontaneous rebooting every few hours...
Oh! You worked for Xylogics? <grin>
Chris
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris B. Wilson Office (904) 375-8658
Director of Network Operations Digital Pager (904) 339-7982
Gateway Telecommunications/VectorNet cbw@vector.net
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
From: Russ Pagenkopf <russ@ism.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:52:28 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Chris B. Wilson, VectorNet wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Brian 'MegaZone' Bikowicz wrote:
> > I used to work for another firm that would release SW without a lot of
> > testing because of demand, or because marketing put the pressure on - and
> > I can't tell you how many *major* bugs showed up after customers were
> > running it that testing should have caught.
>
> Oh! You worked for Xylogics? <grin>
Sorry folks, but this was too good to pass up. The following message was
the *next* message in my mail box. Not only did I have a good laugh at
Chris' message, but this about killed me :-).
- --------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:56:56 -0600
From: Mike Nemeth <mike@vu.com>
To: bsdi-users@Interpath.net
Subject: setting up PPP connection to Xylogics terminal server
i am attempting to set up a PPP connection to a Xylogics terminal server.
what the heck does this mean?
Wait for BOS (tlu) on ppp0 . . .ppp: PPPIOCIPWBOS timed out
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From: "Brian 'MegaZone' Bikowicz" <megazone>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 16:54:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
Once upon a time Chris B. Wilson, VectorNet shaped the electrons to say...
>Oh! You worked for Xylogics? <grin>
Yes.
- -MZ
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From: "Chris B. Wilson, VectorNet" <cbw@vector.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:56:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Brian 'MegaZone' Bikowicz wrote:
> Once upon a time Chris B. Wilson, VectorNet shaped the electrons to say...
> >Oh! You worked for Xylogics? <grin>
>
> Yes.
wow :) good guess...
Chris
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Gateway Telecommunications/VectorNet cbw@vector.net
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From: "Chris B. Wilson, VectorNet" <cbw@vector.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:59:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: serious telnet bug; is it just me?
On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Russ Pagenkopf wrote:
> > Oh! You worked for Xylogics? <grin>
> Sorry folks, but this was too good to pass up. The following message was
> the *next* message in my mail box. Not only did I have a good laugh at
> Chris' message, but this about killed me :-).
>>> i am attempting to set up a PPP connection to a Xylogics terminal server.
>>> what the heck does this mean?
>>> Wait for BOS (tlu) on ppp0 . . .ppp: PPPIOCIPWBOS timed out
Laugh.. Case closed :)
Chris
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Chris B. Wilson Office (904) 375-8658
Director of Network Operations Digital Pager (904) 339-7982
Gateway Telecommunications/VectorNet cbw@vector.net
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From: mharrop@interlog.com (Matt Harrop)
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 21:02:11 -0400
Subject: RIP on Livingston Portmasters...
I'm looking for a solution to a problem with the Livingston Portmaster's I
use. I've got seven PM2e30s, all of them fully loaded. My 3000 od SLIP
and PPP users all have static IP addresses. Because of the fact that any
of these 3000 IP addresses may connect to (and need to be routed through)
any of my 7 Portmasters I've got a very kludgy routing setup.
At the moment, I have my PM2s in a route loop. Each PM2 has its default
route set to the next PM2. The last PM2 in the loop has its default route
set to my Cisco which connect's us to the Internet. The Cisco has a static
route for each network used my my SLIP/PPP clients pointing to the first
PM2. This setup works, but it's a kludge. Of course, as I grow (I'll be
adding 3 more PM2s in the next month) the current solution gets less and
less usable.
Is there any other way to do this? I know that the Portmaster supports
RIP, but from the experimentation I've done, RIP doesn't work for me. When
a user connects to a portmaster, that portmaster announces a route for the
entire network that the user's IP address is on. If I could get the
Portmaster to announce host routes, everything would be great.
Does anyone have a solution to this problem?
Regards,
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Matt Harrop mharrop@interlog.com
InterLog Internet Services voice (416) 975-2655 fax (416) 969-8916
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From: Robert Shady <rls@kilroy.id.net>
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 22:53:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: RIP on Livingston Portmasters...
> I'm looking for a solution to a problem with the Livingston Portmaster's I
> use. I've got seven PM2e30s, all of them fully loaded. My 3000 od SLIP
> and PPP users all have static IP addresses. Because of the fact that any
> of these 3000 IP addresses may connect to (and need to be routed through)
> any of my 7 Portmasters I've got a very kludgy routing setup.
>
> Does anyone have a solution to this problem?
I wish we had your problems... ;)
-- Rob
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From: admin@graves.com (David Graves)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 00:25:54 -0400
Subject: user selectable protocols
Is there a way to configure a pm-2e that would query the user and then allow
one of the three possible choices:
ppp
slip
login
depending upon the user's input? If so, how does one go about setting this up?
Thanks for any input.
____________________________________________________________________________
David Graves admin@graves.com Newtown Square PA USA
NetReach -- PA-NJ-DEL Regional Internet Provider -- email info@netreach.net
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