Re: Which "PoP in a box" to use????? (fwd)

Joe Hartley (jh@metheny.brainiac.com)
Tue, 8 Oct 96 21:49:34 EDT

> We use the OR-U exclusively for PTP/On Demand ISDN Connections (we have
> about 20 of them out there now). I have yet to try a OR-L/HS --- Generally
> customers have chosen the CiscoPro instead.

We have a few OR-U's at customer sites, and I really like them.
Easy to configure, and pretty reliable. One thing I really like
is that they've got the terminal adapter built right in.

When I was hoping for when I looked at the other Office Routers
were units with the CSU/DSU built in - another plug and go unit -
but alas, no such luck.

This started me thinking (I know, this could be trouble) - why does
Livingston offer ISDN modems, and PM's with the ISDN modems built in,
and now PM's with digital modems for channelized T1/E1 lines, but
no CSU/DSU's and more importantly, routers with CSU/DSUs built in?

Why should Adtran or Motorola get another couple o' hundred bucks
when I deploy an OR-LS at a customer site? Why should I have to stack
another piece of hardware on top of the router?

Devil's advocate here: If a customer has a 56K unit and wants to jump
to a higher bandwidth, the whole thing must be replaced. But that'll
happen anyway if they want to go up from an OR-U with ISDN, or to a
T1 > 384K.

Anyone from L. want to give some insights on what the thinking was when
this was discussed internally? I'm sure it must have been - I can't
possibly be the first one to think of this stuff!

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