Re: difference (fwd)

MegaZone (megazone@livingston.com)
Sun, 8 Dec 1996 18:24:54 -0800 (PST)

Once upon a time Prof Jake Messinger shaped the electrons to say...
>What do you mean by bfd? I was just trying to indicate what I thought the
>difference was. You get really defensive even when there is no need, MZ.

The BFD was about the Ascend stuff.

>> 1. The PM-3 is smaller over all, so the total volume isn't radically different.
>What does that mean?

I was looking at the wrong Ascend box - I meant that the PM-3 was smaller
than the MAX, but I made a mistake. They're about the same size, I was
looking at the wrong dimensions.

>Ascend has lowered their prices accross the board. The stret price on a
>4004 is under $10k now. Street price for 2 PM 3's would be arond $6500
>each or $13k.

But the prices I've seen do not include Hybrid Access, Frame Relay, etc, etc
all the things that are built into a PM-3.

>> 4. The PM-3 can FULLY populate the PRI/T1 lines with modems. ALL channels
>> can be used. The 4004 with 4 PRI/T1 has up to 96 lines but only 72 modems.
>Which is 24 more than the PM 3's current maximum config.

But you have a wasted port that you've paid for. Unless you have a LOT of
ISDN customers. With one box it is 23/24 ports, but as you add boxes you
have X times 23 channels that are now ISDN only. Even if you can use some
of them for WAN routing, etc, it is highly unlikely most ISPs will be able
to fully utilize the ports as they grow.

>Currently the PM 3 can only do 48 according to your sales staff.

Well, that's the T1 spec, the PM-3 can handle 60 channels, but you need E1.

>Their new 16 modem cards will solve that when and if they ever come out
>with them.

I'd love to see 16 modems squeezed into the real estate they have available
in those slots. It's going to be a very tight fit.

-MZ

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